Skip to main content

Has Eve pulled an Allods?

The latest EVE patch brings with it an item shop full of cosmetic items. It took a little while for folks to work out how much things cost because EVE now has four different "currencies". There is good old cash, then there is ISK, then there are PLEX and now we have Aurums. The conversion rules are complicated but effectively exchange rates exist between every one of these currencies except that the only one who can get cash out is CCP. 

Anyhow items in the cash shop are priced in Aurums and when you acquire those Aurum's for cash (via the intermediate stage of PLEX) it turns out that a shirt costs about €20 while a humble monocle costs almost  €50.Cue nerd rage and when it comes to nerd rage no one does it better than EVE's hardline community.

A couple of years back Allods online was widely praised during beta and had built up a growing cohort of followers who deserted almost overnight when the cash shop was opened and prices were deemed to be a rip off. Many of the complaints have since been addressed but the bad publicity generated still hampers the game.It is hard to believe that any any mmorpg company who adds a cash shop to their game could not be aware of the Allods debacle and the risk of being perceived to "rip off" customers.

EVE is not Allods. The game has a large cohort of loyal players who have stuck with the game through tough times in the past. The vanity items themselves are not required for gameplay.  Given that CCP has always come across as being the most clued in game company when it comes to economic issues (they have an economist who studies their in game market for example) it is hard to believe that they didn't know exactly what they were doing in pricing cash shop items.  Nevertheless I don't profess to understand it myself. EVE's cash shop prices put the items way outside normal "impulse purchase" thresholds which has to severely limit the total revenues.

All I can think of is that the initial high prices are designed to drain the in game economy of a glut of plexes that have been built up by the games wealthiest players. Once this glut has been dealt with then CCP may lower prices to a revenue maximising optimum. The only problem with this strategy, if it is true, is that CCP takes two major publicity hits: one now because of the perceived high price rip off and a second later when they slash the price of items that some folk have paid through the nose for.

Comments

Nils said…
I wouldn't want a universe full of people with monocles. This makes perfect sense. Wealth is distributed exponentially in real life. Some $100 are a joke for many people.

Look, I don't like RMT and f2p and microtransactions etc. But if you like them, don't complain about the price.

About the Allod: Allod stuff was required for (reasonable) play. Eve stuff is pure vanity.
mbp said…
I agree that this monocle has no impact on gameplay and I suspect that the fuss about it will probably blow over Nils but I am still a bit surprised at the pricing strategy. I doubt very much that €50 is the optimum from a revenue point of view because I can't see many players making a €50 impulse purchase.
Zoso said…
$68 monocles sounded a bit weird, but in the context of cash/ISK/PLEX/Aurum make a lot more sense, perhaps as a mechanism for adjusting the value of the other currencies. Dangerous game, though, as you say.

@Nils "if you like them, don't complain about the price" is just silly; if you prefer subscriptions, can you not complain if you think £500/month is too high? It's quite possible to generally be in favour of non-subscription models but take issue with specific pricing or implementation.
Stabs said…
I actually bought one with the intention of flipping it. It's on the Jita market for a fat markup.

Velocity appears to be close to zero at the moment so all the monacles are just sitting there. I do think that they will sell in time. At least I hope so - or I might end up having to wear it.
mbp said…
Interesting move Stabs. I'd like to see how it turns out. Did you have the plex to hand or did you have to pay cash?
Nils said…
Zoso, in fact I have often argued for (much) higher subscriptions in the past, so that sub-based games become competitive with f2p games.

If sub rates were way too high I wouldn't buy the game .. I don't complain about Porsche being expensive, either.

What's really important to understand is that 95% of the revenue a f2p game does comes from the top 5% players in terms of real life money. .. And some poor souls who can't actually aford it.

95% of all Eve players don't regularly buy PLEX. It's the 5% that buy it.
Stabs said…
I had the isk. Normally I play the market with my spare isk on much safer commodities, I usually get tempted around patch time to invest in the new shinies.

I should have known better. Last time I bought a Noctis BPO which didn't quite pay for itself.

If there's one thing I've realised, or should have realised, it's that obvious patchday profiteering is rarely profitable because there are always too many people doing it. Besides I had a much better idea this time around too which would have been a better way to spend this isk.

Still it's 2b out of about 20b so not really a big deal - and I will eventually get the 2b back with 20% profit.

Popular posts from this blog

Android Tip 3: Sharing a Folder between multiple users of an Android device

Android has allowed multiple user logins for quite a while now. This is can be very useful for tablets which are shared by family members. Normally Android erects strict Chinese walls between users preventing them from using each others apps and viewing each others files. This is a useful security feature and ensures your kids don't mess up your work spreadsheets when screwing around on the tablet and should also prevent them from buying €1,000 worth of Clash of Candy coins on your account. Sometimes however you really do want to share stuff with other users and this can prove surprisingly difficult. For example on a recent holiday I realised that I wanted to share a folder full of travel documents with my wife. Here are some ways to achieve this. 1. If you have guaranteed internet access  then you can create a shared folder on either Dropbox or Google drive. Either of these has the great advantage of being able to access the files on any device and the great disadvantage of bein...

Portal 2 two screen coop on one PC.

I mentioned before that I intended to try Portal 2 in "unofficial split screen co-op mode. Well split screen on a small computer monitor is a recipe for a headache especially when the game defies gravity as much as portal. However a minor bit of extra fiddling allowed us to drive two seperate screens from one PC. The Steam forums describes a complicated method of doing this that I couldn't get working so this simpler method which worked for me might be of use to someone. 1. First I followed the instructions in this post to get split screen multi-player working: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1847904 A minor issue not mentioned is that you need to enable the console from the keyboard/mouse options menu I am using keyboard and one wired Xbox360 controller as suggested. Getting the controller to switch to channel 2 was tricky at first but as Chameleon8 mentions plugging it out and in again during loading works. The trick for me was to do the plug / p...

Lotro: The Forgotten Treasury

Throg joined a Kinship group for the Forgotten Treasury instance last night. It was an enjoyable change from the solo questing that the now level 55 dwarf champion has been mostly doing so far in Moria. Some members of the group had tried and failed to clear the Treasury before so we knew it would be challenging but we were lucky enough to have a well balanced group with Guardian, Minstrel, Lore Master, Hunter, Burglar and Champion (Throg). Throg (level 55) and the minstrel (53) were both below the 56ish level of the instance but the others were all higher so it more or less balanced out. [SPOILERs ahead] It is a well designed enjoyable instance set in a circular chamber with balcony around. As you enter, a boss absconds to a locked side chamber with his treasure leaving the fellowship to clear trash ringed around the balcony. Once the trash are cleared you have access to a puzzle which must be solved in order to open the locked door. Clearing the (including six mini bosses) also get...